Today we are joined by Travis Alabanza. Travis is a performer, writer and theatre maker, and has been noted by numerous publications, such as Artsy, ID and Mobo Awards, as one of the most prominent emerging queer artistic voices. Travis is also listed in OUT as an influential queer figure, appeared in campaigns with MAC X ASOS and performed across the country and internationally. In today’s conversation the three of us talk about who Travis was before the world knew Travis, how they got into the performance space, and the vocabulary around nonbinary, gender non-conforming, and trans, and how we can better approach those conversations. We also talk about Travis’ book, Before I Step Outside, and how the idea for the book came about, and what the process was like for them.